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GENERAL QUESTIONS

 

The previous cross-battery worksheets supplied in The Intelligence Test Desk Reference had "ratings" of how good a measure the different subtests were of each narrow ability area. I notice in the current cross battery assessment CD, the AREAS are rated as to how well they relate to different areas of achievement, but I don't see worksheets that show which subtests from various instruments are the best measures of the relevant narrow ability. Is there an updated worksheet available so that the "best" subtests to measure each narrow ability can be seen and chosen?

I am unaware of worksheets that indicate the "best" subtests that measure each narrow ability since most factor analyses have not been conducted at the narrow ability level. However, expert consensus studies have been conducted at the broad and narrow ability levels.                 

Appendix B that begins on page 298 in the Essentials of Cross-Battery Assessment, Second Edition indicates what subtests are strong, moderate, or mixed measures of CHC abilities. In addition, Rapid References 2.2 - 2.4 on pages 55-61 may be helpful.

 

 

Will the program automatically compute an average for the broad G’s if the two subtests are measuring the same thing (are not qualitatively different)?

            If a cluster is interpretable, then it will be calculated by the program. You need to determine if the cluster is broad or narrow based on the classifications of the tests that comprise it. That is, if the subtests comprising a cluster measure the same narrow ability, then the cluster generated by the program represents a narrow ability.

 

 

When using the WJ III COG in which you get a score for all 7 Gs, do you use those scores or do you use the scores from the XBA chart which you get from the disc in your book? Many times the two scores are very similar. Other times the scores are different. Example: Gc score on COG computer print out is 84 (below average) Gc score from XBA disc is 88 (average) (Memory for words is 86 & Numbers Reversed is 89). So, do you only use the XBA chart scores; can you pick & choose, or only use computer printout scores?

            When you give the WJ III COG, then you are suppose to enter the scores in the WJ III tab. Only when the WJ III CHC Clusters are not interpretable do you consider using the CHC tab for WJ III tests.  So, for example, I administer WJ III AS and CF.  AS = 80 and CF = 105.  In this instance, WJ III Compu Score will give you a Gf cluster, but the WJ III tab of the XBA DMIA will say that Gf is not interpretable. The examiner would then want to follow up with another measure of general sequential reasoning b/c AS was in the deficient range. After following up, the examiner will now have 3 scores for Gf (2 that measured General Sequential Reasoning and one that measured Induction). Because there are no actual norms for this combination of three subtests, they should be entered into the CHC tab in the Gf section. Depending on where the 3 subtest score falls, the program will either indicate that no cluster can be calculated or will calculate a cluster based on two subtests and report the 3 subtest as an outlier. So, if the third subtest was a standard score of 82, for example, then the CHC tab would show a cluster of 81 and an outlier of 105, meaning that in the area of Gf, the student demonstrates average ability to reason inductively but has a deficit in his or her ability to reason deductively. So, as a general rule, you always use actual norms when they are available and when the cluster (scale, index, composite) is interpretable. If actual norms are not available, then the CHC tab is used to determine whether the scores can be aggregated.  Note that there are times when a cluster may be reported as not interpretable on the test tab and interpretable on the CHC tab. For example, if AS was a 65 and CF was an 82, then the WJ III tab would state that Gf is not interpretable. In this case, since both scores are deficient, we wouldn't necessarily need to follow up. As such, if these scores were entered into the CHC tab, a cluster would be reported. A Gf cluster of 74 would be reported b/c both scores (65 and 82) are in the same normative range (i.e., the deficient range). Finally, when you take two scores from the WJ III tab (or any test tab) that were interpretable, and then you plug the same two scores into the CHC tab, you will likely get similar clusters.  That is the norm-based cluster will be very close to the arithmetic average. If fact, for most tests, the arithmetic average (from the CHC tab) will be within the Standard Error of Measurement of the norm-based cluster (when the norm-based cluster is interpretable) across most of the standard score range (out to about + 2 1/2 to 3 SDs). So, it is likely that your interpretation would be the same for actual norms and averages when the cluster is deemed interpretable by the test tab.  Nevertheless, when actual norms are available and the cluster is interpretable, then always use the actual norms. 

 

On the CHC tab, is there a way to type in CTOPP rapid naming tests under the Glr cluster...so that the names of these tests appear on the CHC graph?

No. You can enter the score in the Glr section without selecting a subtest name and then print the graph and write the subtest name(s) in by hand. Alternatively, if you used the CTOPP to supplement the WISC-IV, for example, you can type in CTOPP information at the end of the WISC-IV tab under section “other clusters to be plotted.”

 

 

I cannot clear data by clicking on the button, nor does the program indicate a Yes or No for the Is the Composite Interpretable question. What can I do?

Be sure to enable macros when you start the program.

 

I'm trying to learn how to use the DMIA for cross battery assessment, and I haven't been able to save data. I followed the directions included in the "notes" and clicked on "Save As" and renamed the file. I get a pop-up saying it is a read-only file. Since cross battery assessment involves a lot of testing, I don't get it all done in one testing session. How can I

put in data as I get it instead of having to wait until I am finished testing to use the DMIA? How do I save data before moving to the next case?

The reason for the read-only pop-up is because the default location for saving the newly named file is the CD itself. The location of the new file obviously can not be on the CD because it is protected. Therefore, the location where the file is to be saved needs to be changed to either another location on the hard drive (e.g., My Documents) or a removable drive (e,g.,

flash drive). After the new file is saved for the first time in a new location, then data can be entered as it is available and there is no need to do a "Save As"; "Save" is sufficient. To re-open the file, there is no need to run the CD, the person can run the file by simply double-clicking

that renamed file. To open a clean empty file for another case, the CD should be run and the "Save as" procedure should be followed again.

 

When I enter the standard scores, it gives me the percentiles. However, it doesn't tell me the cluster scores, the descriptive categories or whether the cluster is interpretable. Here's what I've already done. I've set my security setting to "low" to use it. Also, I've saved it under a different name. I don't know whether this has anything to do with it, but when I initially go into the workbook, I get a message that says, "Workbook is protected and cannot be changed." I've tried to unprotect it, but it tells me I need a password to do that.

First, the protected workbook message shows up any time there is an attempt to click on a cell that is automated and not available for user input. Users may only enter data in "unprotected" cells. There is no need to alter protected cells as they are there for information or for automation and will display information as becomes necessary depending on the user data that are entered. The protection is necessary to protect the program source code from being altered.

Second, cluster and composite scores are only calculated automatically if scores are entered on the CHC tab. They are not automatically calculated by the program for specific cognitive batteries, that is, for data entered on battery-specific tabs (e.g., WISC-IV). We do this for several reasons. One the program is not intended to be a scoring program for other tests. It is designed more to assist in the use of data gathered from tests in a cross-battery and theory-based measurement and interpretation manner. In this way, it does not prevent users from using the data they have already generated from scoring a particular test and it has the advantage of allowing the user to use the actual cluster or composite scores that are derived from the norms of the test given. When a specific battery is used, it may be helpful to maintain the composites or clusters as they were derived from the actual norms of the test. So for any tab other than the CHC tab, it is necessary for the user to fully score the battery given before using the XBA-DMIA and then enter both the subtest and cluster/composite/IQ/Index scores into the appropriate tab in the program. If, on the other hand you are doing cross-battery assessment, you do have the option of entering the scores on the CHC tab. Here you would only need to enter the subtest scores and the program will automatically convert them to a common metric and will automatically calculate a cluster/composite score. It will also automatically report the descriptive category, and will automatically report whether the composite is interpretable or not.

On the test-specific tabs, the program operates differently because it needs to compare the cluster/composite score you enter with the subtest scores that comprise it before it can make a determination regarding interpretability. So, if you enter the composite score first, you will get the descriptive category, but it will not indicate whether it is interpretable. If you then enter the subtest scores that comprise that cluster/composite (at least two but sometimes three subtests are needed such as VCI on WISC-IV), it will then indicate whether the cluster is or is not interpretable. The same will happen with the FSIQ and GAI and other such scores. Since they are made up of a combination of cluster/composite scores, the interpretability will not be reported until the appropriate number of cluster/composite scores are entered. This works in reverse too, that is, if you enter the subtest scores that comprise a particular cluster/composite, the descriptive category for it and interpretability will not show up until the actual score for the cluster/composite is entered. Again, the program must wait for the all the information to be entered before it can determine interpretability.

 

WINDOWS VISTA USERS

 

There are some Windows Vista issues that may affect the use of the automated programs on the CD Rom.  First, the program opens with the window absolutely minimized on my screen, maybe on yours too. I have to hit the maximize button to get it to open up, and then it's full screen instead of a window like normal. The publisher's programmers will need to look at this issue because it is annoying and a real pain when you first start the program. Second, Vista does not allow people to enable macros on the fly. It requires the user to go into the program and change the options for security settings for macros to "low" for which it gives the user a caution that this is "not recommended." To allow Vista users to open the program without doing this we'll have to have the macros issued with a signed certificate from a certificate authority.

 

Why can’t I enter data for the KABC-II Story Completion and Pattern Reasoning subtests for the Planning/Gf scale?

The little red triangle in the upper right corner is meant to instruct the user to enter the data for Story Completion and Pattern Reasoning under the Simultaneous/Gv section and they will be automatically carried over to the Planning/Gf section. Thus, you cannot enter scores in Planning/Gf directly, you must enter them in Simultaneous/Gv and allow the program to carry the scores over automatically.

 

If you administered all of the DAS-II you would want to put in four subtest scores in the Gc section of the CHC tab, but there is only room for three. Is there a way to add another cell under Gc or any other area?

The basic answer, unfortunately, is that there is no way to include four scores for any broad ability on the CHC tab/graph. This is perhaps something we can do for an update, allow maybe four or more scores to be entered on that tab. However, if as the person indicates, the entire DAS-II was administered, then there's really no reason to use the CHC tab in the first place. The scores should rightly be entered in the DAS-II tab (the last tab on the right side) where all four scores for Gc can be entered, in addition to all other scores that may have been obtained. The DAS-II tab will then graph all the scores and will even graph six additional scores that can be entered at the very bottom in the blank spaces, should there be any supplemental testing or scores from other batteries. The CHC broad abilities are noted on the DAS-II tab (e.g., Gc, Gf, Gv, Gs, Gsm).

                         

In your Rapid Reference Tables 2.2 to 2.4, you list subtests that measure CHC narrow abilities/processes that relate significantly to achievement in several academic areas. How have you determined that relationship?

The subtests listed in Table 2.2 to 2.4 are measures of the CHC abilities/processes that in turn predict the respective areas of achievement. There are both content and construct validity evidence for the subtests listed in these tables as measures of the different CHC abilities/processes. If we know that there is a strong relationship between phonological processing and reading, and if we want to measure phonological processing in a child who is having reading difficulties, then we would want to select tests that are valid measures of phonological processing. These tests are printed in Tables 2.2 to 2.4.

TEST INTERPRETATION

 

Question: Should we be as concerned about interpreting achievement subtest scores within a cluster with statistically significant differences as we are about interpreting cognitive ability subtest scores within a cluster with statistically significant differences?

 Yes, we should. Achievement tests measure abilities just as cognitive tests measure abilities. The difference between so-called "academic" and "cognitive" abilities is semantic only with achievement referring to abilities that are typically developed via formal instruction and direct exposure, for example, Grw, Gq, Gc. Some abilities, notably the "cognitive" ones are also influenced by formal school experiences as well but not to the same degree, for example, Gf, Ga, Gsm. And some abilities develop largely independent of formal school experiences, for example, Glr, Gs. Therefore, the same guidelines that we espouse relative to the construction of clusters with cognitive or intelligence tests applies equally well to data from "achievement" tests. Indeed, these abilities are part of the whole CHC theoretical framework and are specified clearly within the paradigm.

 

 

Question: I gave the Glr cluster for the WJ III. When I entered the scores in under the WJ tab they came back as non interpretable Visual-Auditory Learning was 84 and Retrieval Fluency was 63. When I entered these scores under the CHC tab it gave me an average of 74. The WJ scorer gave me a Glr cluster of 71, not 74. Why was it considered interpretable under the CHC tab, why were the cluster scores off by three points?

 The reason the WJ III tab said "non interpretable" is b/c there is a statistically significant difference between VAL and RF, indicating that the Glr cluster may not be a good estimate of this student's overall Glr ability (see Table 3.1 of Essentials of Cross-Batter Assessment, Second Edition). The reason the CHC tab calculated a cluster is b/c the interpretive guidelines underlying the cross-battery approach looks at more than just statistical significance. For example, the normative range in which the scores fall is also important. Thus, the reason the CHC tab provided a cluster is b/c BOTH scores are in the normative weakness range, indicating that there is little question that Glr is an area of significant concern for this student. Now of course an 84 is much better than a 63 (and that difference is not due to chance). Therefore, you could talk about Glr as being a normative weakness (71) and explain the "relative" strength in this domain (84). Now, the reason I said use the 71 is b/c it is based on the actual WJ III standardization data. BUT, the 74 would have been fine also. Why?  Because when you look at the confidence band around 71, it includes 74, meaning that both are equally plausible for this individual.

 

 

Question: Right now we have 3 qualitatively different narrow abilities entered under Glr.

In the software it looks as follows:

LONG TERM RETRIEVAL

WJ III VAL = 99

WJ III Retrieval Fluency  = 111

WJ III VAL-Del = 82 (outlier)

Composite according to the software = 105

 

Other Glr tests administered: WJ III Memory for Names = 104

WJ III Memory for Names Delayed = 113

 

How is the composite getting 105?  How is this interpretable given the difference?

We only recommend using the CHC tab, when actual norm-based clusters are not interpretable.  If you use the WJ III tab, you will see that the Glr cluster based on VAL and RF is interpretable.  Therefore, the WJ III Glr cluster should be reported and interpreted. The 105 reported on the CHC tab is an arithmetic average of VAL and RF only and is within the SEM of the WJ III Glr cluster based on actual norms. Note that the program will calculate an arithmetic average for scores that fall within the same normative range, as was the case with your VAL and RF scores.  All the rules for cluster calculation and interpretation are clearly spelled out in the book (including why the WJ III VAL-Del was reported as an outlier; see Chapter 3). 

 

 

Question: What happens to an outlier when the program is computing a cluster? For example,

SHORT-TERM MEMORY

WJ III Memory for Words  =  79 (outlier)

WJ III Numbers Rev  =  98

WJ III Auditory Working Memory  =  105

Composite for on CB2 software  =  102

 

So it seems like the program is throwing out the 79 to get the composite. Is this true? Also after working across the XBA2 book and ATDR2, it seems there are some slight variations on how to handle things. Why is this?

 We do not recommend throwing any data out. The CHC tab will calculate two or three subtest clusters based on the normative range in which the scores fall as well as the magnitude of the differences between the scores based on statistical significance. Again, I would encourage you to read the rules for calculating clusters. In some cases, an outlier may not be clinically meaningful (e.g., when it is in the average or better range).  In other cases, outliers are meaningful and need to be investigated further (e.g., when they are in the normative weakness or deficit range). We provide guidelines for determining whether outliers need to be investigated further. We also provide interpretive statements for all possible outcomes when 3 scores are entered into any G section of the CHC tab. 

Note that the differences between the ATDR-2 worksheets and the XBA DMIA (program on the CD-ROM) are substantial. The main difference is that the XBA DMIA tells you what clusters are and are not interpretable and bases cluster interpretation (2 or 3 subtest combinations) on a detailed, psychometrically and theoretically defensible set of rules. When using the ATDR-2 worksheets, you need to know more about how to interpret the results.... the XBA DMIA does more for you...it simplifies the process.

 
Question: When inputting data into the CHC Abilities/Processes tab, there is only space for three subtests to be entered under each cognitive ability. In the case where testing includes more than the three allowable subtests, what is your recommendation as to how to determine which scores to enter?
            Most tests only have 2-3 subtests for each broad cognitive area.  You are to first use the test specific tabs. Only when cognitive clusters are "not interpretable" based on the test specific tab, should you try to make sense of your data with the CHC tab (either by entering the scores to determine if they are interpretable based on our XBA guidelines or by following up on a low score).  For example, if I gave the three subtests that made up the VCI on the WISC-IV, and the WISC-IV tab indicated that the VCI was not interpretable, then I would enter those same subtest scores on the CHC tab to determine if they were interpretable based on a different interpretive system (the XBA system).  This is explained in the book.  Alternatively, let's say I had a WJ III Glr cluster that was not interpretable based on the WJ III tab. And, I entered the scores on the CHC tab and they were still not interpretable, then I would determine what narrow ability is measured by the lowest subtest and administer another subtest that measures that narrow ability. Then I would enter the third score on the CHC tab and follow the interpretive statement for that constellation of scores. I do not know of many instances in which you would have more than 3 scores for any broad ability domain.

Question: We are interested in seeing from an interpretation viewpoint how you would deal with student profiles where the performance is expected for the child's diverse background and where it is not expected. 

 In general, you only need two additional explanatory statements when using the C-LIM. This is because if the results reflect typical performance of ELLs, then the results are not valid and may not be interpreted. But of course, you can then assume the student is normal and not disabled. So in that case, that's all there is. In the case where the results do not reflect typical (declining) performance, then the results can be considered valid and may be interpreted in the usual fashion, a la XBA principles. So what you need are essentially validity statements that preface the interpretation of your results. And to that end, I'm including below a couple of sample statements that you are more than welcome to copy, use verbatim, edit to suit your needs, or otherwise apply in your work.

 

Validity statement where declining pattern is evident:

 

Because the student is not a native English speaker, it is necessary to establish the validity of the results obtained from testing to ensure that they are accurate estimates of ability or knowledge and not the manifestation of cultural or linguistic differences. To this end, a systematic evaluation of the possible effects of lack of acculturation and limited English proficiency was carried out via use of the Culture-Language Interpretive Matrix (C-LIM).

 

A careful review of the student’s test data as entered into the C-LIM reveals a pattern of decline that is typical of and within the range that would be expected of other individuals with similar cultural and linguistic backgrounds. This declining pattern of test performance suggests that test performance was due primarily to the influence of cultural and linguistic factors rather than actual ability. Accordingly, the test results evaluated here cannot be considered valid and are not interpretable from a strict psychometric standpoint. However, given that the observed pattern is consistent with performance that is typical of non-disabled, culturally and linguistically diverse individuals with average ability, it can be reasonably concluded that this student’s abilities are also within the average range of performance and does not suggest or support the presence of any type of disability.

 

Validity statement where declining pattern is NOT evident:

 

Because the student is not a native English speaker, it is necessary to establish the validity of the results obtained from testing to ensure that they are accurate estimates of ability or knowledge and not the manifestation of cultural or linguistic differences. To this end, a systematic evaluation of the possible effects of lack of acculturation and limited English proficiency was carried out via use of the Culture-Language Interpretive Matrix (C-LIM).

A careful review of the student’s test data as entered into the C-LIM does not appear to reveal a pattern of decline that is typical of or within the range that would be expected of other individuals with similar cultural and linguistic backgrounds. The pattern of test performance does not decline systematically and suggests that test performance was not due primarily to the influence of cultural and linguistic factors. Although such influences may be contributory factors, they are not believed to be the primary reasons for the observed pattern. In addition, other extraneous factors that might account for the observed pattern (for example, lack of motivation, fatigue, incorrect administration/scoring, emotional/behavioral problems) have been excluded. This indicates that the test results can be considered valid, interpretable, and are likely to be good estimates of the student’s actual ability or knowledge. Because the observed pattern is not consistent with performance that is typical of non-disabled, culturally and linguistically diverse individuals with average ability, it can be reasonably concluded, if supported by additional data, that the student’s test performance may be attributed primarily to the presence of a learning disability.

 

Note that you may substitute the name of the student who is being evaluated in place of where I have written "the student's" to make the report more personalized. Also, if you use the latter statement, that the results are valid, you would then proceed to using the XBA DMIA and provide an analysis and interpretation of those results as they might pertain to the presence of a learning disability just as you would for any other student. These and additional interpretive statements for use with ELLs can be found on the Downloads tab on this website.

 

 

Question: I administered the WISC-IV and administered additional subtests from the WJ III to get the Gv and Glr cluster. The Gv cluster was based on the aggregate performance on block design and picture recognition. Can I report the average standard score from the cross battery as the Gv cluster since the XBA score is only the average of the two subtests?  Or should I give the spatial relation from the WJ III to get the cluster score for Gv processing?  I guess what I am asking is if we can get a cluster score when we use subtests from two different batteries using the XBA.

 First, I'm not sure why you used the WJ III to supplement in the area of Gv. The WISC-IV measures Gv (Block Design and Picture Completion) and provides actual norms for this Gv cluster (see Flanagan and Kaufman's Essentials of WISC-IV Assessment book). Also, the XBA DMIA on the CD that accompanies the Essentials of Cross-Battery Assessment 2nd edition book includes the norms for the WISC-IV Gv cluster. There are rules for when it is appropriate to average scores via XBA procedures.......usually these averages are necessary at the narrow ability level .... there is not as much of a need to calculate averages at the broad ability level, since most tests provide actual norms for broad ability clusters. So, while you can use subtests from different batteries throughout the course of an assessment, it does not appear that what you are trying to do is supported simply b/c you can get a Gv cluster from both the WISC-IV and the WJ III and therefore do not need to combine a Gv subtest from each battery and calculate and average.

 

Question: For my bilingual kids, I generally administer the WJ III and get all 7 cognitive clusters. When the broad cluster is nonunitary, I administer a 3rd measure of the weaker narrow ability. Let's say these two measures of the weaker ability do not converge and the higher score is from the 2nd assessment battery (i.e., WISC-IV). Then the student's cognitive ability (i.e., Gf) is an aggregate of the one subtest of the WJ III and one subtest of the WISC-IV. Given this, can I report the average score based on XBA as the “broad cluster score” for the cognitive ability (i.e., Gf)?

 Based on this scenario, the tentative answer to your question is yes. However, I would need numbers. Conceptually, you are correct. But, to know for sure if a cluster can be calculated, you would need to enter the scores into the XBA DMIA. If the WJ III tab indicates that the cluster is not interpretable, then first enter the two WJ III scores into the appropriate place on the CHC tab (Gf in your example). It may be that you can get an interpretable cluster following CHC interpretive guidelines (which are built into the CHC tab). For example, if your Gf scores on the WJ III were 55 and 72, the WJ III tab would say that the cluster was not interpretable b/c the difference between the scores is statistically significant. The CHC tab would provide a cluster based on the average of these scores b/c both scores fall outside and below normal limits and therefore are in the same normative range, indicating that the student's Gf is deficient. Thus, it may not be necessary to give a third measure. If however, one score is in the deficient range (say 72) and the other Gf score is within normal limits (say 89), then the WJ III tab would say not interpretable and the CHC tab would say not interpretable. Then, if you gave a third test that measures the same narrow ability as the test that yielded the lower score, and the third test yielded a score that was similar to the higher Gf test score (i.e., closer to 89), then the CHC tab would calculate a cluster based on the third test and the test that yielded an 89 and report the 72 as an outlier. This constellation of scores is linked to an interpretive statement in the Cross-Battery book. 

GRAPHS

 

It looks like the graph is about 5 points off, is that correct? 

             Because of the “3-D” nature of the graphs, it appears that the shading itself is 5 points off AND the normative range labels at the top are also exactly 5 points off which makes it seem the conversions are off, but in fact they are not. For example, if the cluster score for the Sequential/Gsm is 85, on the graphs, the bar appears to be graphed starting at 80 rather than 85. Similarly, the “normative range” label and indicator line also appears to be shifted by 5 points. In addition, the range of the bar that is calculated is also correct (i.e., SEM of +/- 5 points), but because of the 3-D effect of the bars, which makes them "float above the lines," it is easy to visually misinterpret which scores are represented.

The average range on the CHC Broad Ability Data chart, when printed, is off and shown as 87 to 117 instead of 85 to 115. 

On the screen, the shading is fine as are the descriptive range brackets. When you print the page, however, Excel shifts the brackets and shaded range over and down slightly, altering the actual average range. This is an artifact of the source code in Excel and a limitation of the program that we were unable to overcome. The problem is that the gray shading and the descriptive range labels and even the brackets that delineate the areas are NOT an actual part of the graph. They are separate graphical "objects" that we add on top of the graph that is generated automatically. what happens is that when the program goes to prepare the document for printing, it imposes the constraints of the printer that will be used. For example, most inkjet printers can only print to about 1/2" from the bottom and top of the page whereas most laser printers can go to 1/4" top and bottom. So the program rescales the document to fit the printer's limitations. Generally, everything would be adjusted accordingly. But in our case, because the graph is generated as a whole, and is not connected to the descriptive range labels, shading, and such, it may, at times and with certain printers, stretch or shrink the graph one way or another to fit it on the paper as it feels is best. We tried to limit this shrinking/stretching as much as possible by having the graph's vertical range remain constant. But the program nevertheless "adjusts" the graph horizontally any time it must adjust it vertically. Remember, the graphs are printed in landscape, so on some printers, a half inch from the top and bottom, or even a half inch on the bottom and a quarter inch on top, means that 3/4" to 1" of the paper cannot be used. That limits the graph to 7 1/2" to 7 3/4" in vertical height in landscape mode. Horizontally, it still leaves as much as 10" to 10 1/4" which is more than enough to fit the proper aspect ratio of the graph if it has to be shrunk vertically. Thus, on the page, the "objects" we impose upon the graph do not not need to move at all and remain where they are. However, if any single element of the graph needs to be readjusted (that is, scaled down vertically), then all elements created along with the graph, being a part of the graph, are likewise moved resulting in a corresponding horizontal adjustment of the graph. So the graph changes slightly but the labels do not and the printing looks off. The gray shading looks ok on screen because there is no margin constraint in the way the graph or objects may be displayed on a page. It becomes a problem when the graph is to be printed on a printer that cannot match the exact layout of the graph. This is a problem, as I mentioned in my prior response, with the way that Excel handles documents for printing. Word does the same thing in many cases. It also has to do with the way in which graphs are created and what you can do with them. MS never really thought anyone might superimpose graphics on top of the graph and thought that all the features available in the graph's creation were enough so that it didn't worry about having to adjust the graph for printing and the problems it might create, thinking there would not be anything else to worry about, or at least nothing that required the precision we do. Bottom line is that there are two possible solutions I can think of. One is that we try, and this may be very difficult, to make the graphs smaller. Yes, smaller. They will be less readable on a regular computer screen and maybe even when printed out, but if we can make the graphs fit on the page with about a 1/2" margin all the way around, then we will be within the parameters of 99% of all current printers and Excel would not then need to adjust the graph and the shading and labels wouldn't move. We could tell people to use a more modern printer, as some new printers have edge-to-edge capability, but people may not love that option because it means more money (and only about 10% of all printers--mostly photo printers--have edge-to-edge compatibility), or they may not even know how to configure their printers for margin-less printing since that option usually assumes photo printing which is not what is being done here. The second hope we have is that the newest version of Excel (2007) might have more features available so that we can apply the "objects" as a part of the graph, rather than external to it or superimposed on it. If we can do this, the graph can adjust as necessary and Excel will adjust our labels right along with it.

 

There does not seem to be a feature on the CD program which automatically combines all the entered information, for example, WISC + CHC scores - and displays it all on one table/graph. Is that correct?

Note that below all entered scores on each test tab, there is a place for entering data from other batteries and tests. You may enter up to 6 clusters. For example, if you administered the WISC-IV and entered all WISC-IV data on the WISC-IV tab, but also gave the WJ III Ga and Glr clusters to supplement the WISC-IV, then the Ga and Glr clusters can be entered into the WISC-IV tab and the WISC-IV graph would display these clusters along with the WISC-IV data.  I like to add some achievement clusters here as well so that I can see the pattern of strengths and weaknesses across both academic and cognitive areas on the corresponding graph. 

 

Is it possible to cut and paste a student's completed DAS-II graph from the excel software into a MS Word report?

Yes, you can cut and paste the graph to a report in Word. To do so, click in the blank space just above the title of the graph. You'll notice that small black squares will appear in the corners and along the midpoint of the graph. This indicates that the entire graph has been selected. If you see only a portion of the graph selected, click in the space outside the graph and the squares will disappear and you can try selecting again. Once you have the graph selected, simply click on the "copy" icon at the top of the menu bar (between the cut and paste icons), or else click on the Edit command, and then select the "copy" option. Note, by the way, that you cannot use the "right mouse click, then copy" option here because it is not allowed in this case when using Excel. Once the graph has been copied, simply open up your word document and select the paste icon from the menu bar or again choose the Edit command and then the paste option. Alternatively, you can now use the shortcut where you simply right click anywhere with the mouse then choose the paste option which will be in the pop up menu. The entire graph will then be pasted. This works best if your Word document is in landscape mode, but it does work fine in portrait mode. Note also that the grey shaded area may shift a little when you paste the document. This is not anything we can control at the moment given the limitations in both Word and Excel. If you are familiar with editing objects in Word, you can select the shaded area and move it to more closely align with the values. But if you do not know how to do this, it's best just to leave it alone.

 

 

Can the DAS-II t-scores from the DAS-II page be transferred directly into the CHC table?

No. The DAS-II scores on the DAS-II tab are automatically converted to the deviation IQ metric (X = 100, SD = 15). These converted scores are the ones that should be transferred to the DAS-II tab.

CULTURE-LANGUAGE INTERPRETIVE MATRIX

 

Can input scores from the Bateria III COG (instead of the WJ III COG) into the Cross-Battery software. Our District serves a large bilingual population and we often use the Bateria III COG. We are frequently faced with scenarios that would benefit from the cross-battery approach. However the book just refers to the WJ III and we fear it would not be valid to use the software with the Bateria III COG.

The short answer is, yes, you can use the standard scores you derive for each subtest on the Bateria-III in the XBA DMIA in the corresponding data entry cells on the WJ III tab. The tests are structured in parallel fashion, so there's no problem in knowing which test is which or where it goes in the program. You may also enter the cluster scores from the Bateria-III into the program as well and it will inform you if the cluster is or is not interpretable. You can also enter any cluster or subtests in the blank spaces provided at the bottom of the WJ III sheet to include additional subtests from other batteries or the WJ III Diagnostic Supplement. The main reason you can enter the scores for the Bateria-III, apart from the parallel structure of the tests, is that you are entering standard scores in the program, not raw scores. Our program is not a scoring program, but only a data management and interpretive assistant. Thus, it requires the use of standard scores only. This has several advantages. First, the standard scores, whether from the WJ III or the Bateria-III, are calculated by the computer scoring program, not by us, and thus, each standard score is derived from the appropriate norming sample for each test. So each score is derived correctly and in accordance with the procedures of each test and there is no alteration of the score whatsoever. Second, standard scores are readily interchangeable. Whether you enter scaled scores (such as with the Wechslers and KABC-II), T-scores (such as with the DAS), or deviation IQ scores (such as with the WJIII and Bateria-III), they all share the same properties except for the scaling which is arbitrary. For example, a scaled score of 7 on the WISC is the same as a T-score of 40 on the DAS-II which is the same as an 85 on the WJIII/Bateria-III. Third, although they are different metrics, the percentile rank is the same for all of them (16th PR). It does not change. And fourth, because the percentile ranks are equivalent, the scores are all interpreted by our program consistently (in this case, as being at the very bottom end of the average range). So there is no significant issue in using standard scores from the Bateria-III in the program. In the next version, we'll likely include a separate tab for the Bateria-III where people can feel comfortable putting the scores in a place for which they are specifically designed.

 

 

I am assuming that the C-LIM is used with English language learners that are dominant in English because the test tabs are tests with English instructions mostly. I have been getting many referrals for testing on children who are still Spanish dominant in which case the cognitive instruments that I use may include subtests from the WISC-4 Spanish and the Bateria III Pruebas de habilidades cognitivas (sometimes I use subtests from the UNIT of the K-ABC especially if I have non-unitary factors and I try to limit my testing to 2 instruments)

 

My questions are:

1.  Can the C-LIM possibly be used with the above-mentioned cognitive instruments that are administered in Spanish? 

Yes, the C-LIM may be used with scores obtained from the Bateria-III and WISC-IV Spanish

 

2.  If yes, I am assuming that I would plug the scores in to the general tab because I used cross-battery tests, correct?

You may plug the scores into either the test-specific tabs or the general tab, whichever best suits the evaluation you are doing.

 

3.  Would I plug in the scores for the Bateria III #6 Pareo Visual to the WJ III #6 Visual matching tab?

Yes, you can put the score for the subtest from the Bateria-III/WISC-IV Spanish that corresponds directly to the same test on the WJ III/WISC-IV Spanish

You also mention the concept of dominance in your question and this has nothing to do, really, with whether the C-LIM is or is not applicable. Language dominance only tells you which language is better developed or sometimes preferred, but it does not tell you how proficient the individual is in either language. You could be dominant in one language but still have very low proficiency in it. Conversely you could have a very high level of proficiency in your dominant language and just a high level in the other, which would be great. But in the schools we run across kids who are often low in both, so dominance is not really a useful concept and it will not affect the type of pattern that should result in the C-LIM for the reasons which I'll explain below.

And last, you should not be embarrassed at all by your questions. They are excellent questions and I got many of the same ones in my last presentation. In truth, what you are asking is really something that comes from an advanced understanding and use of the C-LIM so you should feel proud that you are actually way ahead of the curve, not behind it! As I said, the short answer to your first question is, yes, you can use the standard scores you derive for each subtests on the Bateria-III/WISC-IV Spanish in the XBA DMIA in the corresponding data entry cells on the WJ III/WISC-IV tabs. I don't recall exactly if the WISC-IV Spanish is or isn't parallel to the English version, but I believe it is, and I do know that the WJIII and Bateria-III tests are in fact structured in parallel fashion, so there should be no problem in knowing which test is which or where it goes in the program. Thus, you may also enter the cluster scores from the Bateria-III/WISC-IV into the program as well and it will inform you if the cluster is or is not interpretable. You can also enter any cluster or subtests in the blank spaces provided at the bottom of the tabs to include additional subtests from other batteries (UNIT, KABC-II, WJ III Diagnostic Supplement).

The main reason you can enter the scores for these Spanish tests, apart from the parallel structure, is that you are entering standard scores in the program, not raw scores. Our program is not a scoring program, but only a data management and interpretive assistant. Thus, it requires the use of standard scores only. This has several advantages. First, the standard scores, whether from the WJ III or the Bateria-III, are calculated by the computer scoring program, not by us, and thus, each standard score is derived from the appropriate norming sample for each test. So each score is derived correctly and in accordance with the procedures of each test and there is no alteration of the score whatsoever. Second, standard scores are readily interchangeable. Whether you enter scaled scores (such as with the Wechslers and KABC-II), T-scores (such as with the DAS), or deviation IQ scores (such as with the WJ III and Bateria-III), they all share the same properties except for the scaling which is arbitrary. For example, a scaled score of 7 on the WISC/WISC Spanish is the same as a T-score of 40 on the DAS-II which is the same as an 85 on the WJIII/Bateria-III. Third, although they are different metrics, the percentile rank is the same for all of them (16th PR). It does not change. And fourth, because the percentile ranks are equivalent, the scores are all interpreted by our program consistently (in this case, as being at the very bottom end of the average range). So there is no significant issue in using standard scores from the Bateria-III in the program. In the next version, we'll likely include a separate tab for the Bateria-III where people can feel comfortable putting the scores in a place for which they are specifically designed.

You can also use the scores from the Bateria-III/WISC-IV Spanish, actually, the clusters for the seven CHC abilities, in the SLD Assistant which is used to evaluate the criterion for "an otherwise normal ability profile." If you are using the WISC-IV Spanish, however, you will need to do supplemental testing to ensure that all seven CHC domains are evaluated. In that program, you merely enter "yes" or "no" for each of the abilities with respect to whether the cluster is intact (within the average range) or not. If valid clusters are reported by the XBA DMIA and if they are also classified as average, then you can answer "yes" and if they are below average you can answer "no."

Ok, all this aside, let me add some caveats before you do anything. If you are using the Bateria-III/WISC-IV Spanish, it means you are working with an individual who is not a native English speaker. Thus, BEFORE you would even consider evaluating you must first use the C-LIM to determine whether your results are valid or not. In general, the C-LIM was designed to evaluate the performance of bilinguals on tests administered to them in English. This is because there is a very long history and body of research regarding how bilinguals perform on tests given to them in English. In contrast there is virtually no research on tests given to bilinguals and what their performance might be when the test is given in the native language, not in English. However, because the Bateria-III/WISC-IV Spanish, as with all current tests designed for speakers of languages other than English, are actually normed and were adapted primarily on monolingual speakers of Spanish, living in monolingual Spanish speaking countries, being raised by monolingual Spanish speaking parents, and being educated monolingually in Spanish, their use with bilinguals living in the U.S. is probably as problematic as it is with any other test normed on monolingual English speakers. Although both the Bateria-III and WISC-IV Spanish claim to include "bilinguals" they are not represented in the norms in any systematic way. That is, language proficiency in both languages and their respective levels of acculturation are not variables that are stratified or sampled randomly from the population. The norm samples remain primarily a monolingual group, whether English or Spanish speaking. Thus, it is likely, and this is only speculation at this time, but I do believe there is evidence to support it, that bilinguals will exhibit the same type of declining pattern of performance on the Bateria-III and WISC-IV as they do on the WJ III and WISC-IV or other such cognitive tests given in English. Therefore, you should not take your scores directly from the Bateria-III or WISC-IV Spanish and place them in the XBA DMIA until you have first determined their validity with the C-LIM, just as you would with any test you may have given in English. We actually have some research going on at the moment that will examine the performance of bilinguals on the Bateria-III, so we may later be able to provide more guidance on the nature of the declining pattern. For now, I'd look at the low culture/low language tests and see if they are highest, the hi culture/hi language tests to see if they are the lowest, and the moderate culture/moderate language tests to make sure they are between the two. I wouldn't worry too much about the pattern of the tests that are off the diagonal, so to speak, as there may be changes in those classifications in the future. In any event, the C-LIM will allow you to evaluate whether there is or is not a declining pattern of performance and this determination is crucial to whether you can have confidence that your scores are valid or not. In short, if the pattern declines systematically, then the results are not valid and you should not enter them in the XBA DMIA and you should report that they are invalid and thus uninterpretable, however, that would also mean that there is nothing wrong with the individual. If you wish, you are welcome to the following interpretive statements to help explain your findings and support your work.

Validity statement where declining pattern is evident:

Because the student is not a native English speaker, it is necessary to establish the validity of the results obtained from testing to ensure that they are accurate estimates of ability or knowledge and not the manifestation of cultural or linguistic differences. To this end, a systematic evaluation of the possible effects of lack of acculturation and limited English proficiency was carried out via use of the Culture-Language Interpretive Matrix (C-LIM). A careful review of the student’s test data as entered into the C-LIM reveals a pattern of decline that is typical of and within the range that would be expected of other individuals with similar cultural and linguistic backgrounds. This declining pattern of test performance suggests that test performance was due primarily to the influence of cultural and linguistic factors rather than actual ability. Accordingly, the test results evaluated here cannot be considered valid and are not interpretable from a strict psychometric standpoint. However, given that the observed pattern is consistent with performance that is typical of non-disabled, culturally and linguistically diverse individuals with average ability, it can be reasonably concluded that this student’s abilities are also within the average range of performance and does not suggest or support the presence of any type of disability.

Validity statement where declining pattern is NOT evident:

Because the student is not a native English speaker, it is necessary to establish the validity of the results obtained from testing to ensure that they are accurate estimates of ability or knowledge and not the manifestation of cultural or linguistic differences. To this end, a systematic evaluation of the possible effects of lack of acculturation and limited English proficiency was carried out via use of the Culture-Language Interpretive Matrix (C-LIM).

A careful review of the student’s test data as entered into the C-LIM does not appear to reveal a pattern of decline that is typical of or within the range that would be expected of other individuals with similar cultural and linguistic backgrounds. The pattern of test performance does not decline systematically and suggests that test performance was not due primarily to the influence of cultural and linguistic factors. Although such influences may be contributory factors, they are not believed to be the primary reasons for the observed pattern. In addition, other extraneous factors that might account for the observed pattern (for example, lack of motivation, fatigue, incorrect administration/scoring, emotional/behavioral problems) have been excluded. This indicates that the test results can be considered valid, interpretable, and are likely to be good estimates of the student’s actual ability or knowledge.

Because the observed pattern is not consistent with performance that is typical of non-disabled, culturally and linguistically diverse individuals with average ability, it can be reasonably concluded, if supported by additional data, that the student’s test performance may be attributed primarily to the presence of a learning disability.

If you use the latter statement, that the results are valid, you would then proceed to using the XBA DMIA and provide an analysis of those results as they might pertain to the presence of a learning disability.

ERRATA

             

  • On page 64 Figure 2.6 the Information subtest is listed twice. The first time it is listed, it should read Comprehension. That is, Similarities Comprehension, and Vocabulary make up the Gc cluster.
  • On page 67 Figure 2.9 Atlantis should be listed as a core Glr subtest and Rebus Delayed should be listed as a supplemental/optional G subtest.
  • On page 21 the DAS-II Speed of Information Processing subtest should be listed under Gs, not Ga.
  • On page 69 Figure 2.11 note that several subtests listed as core subtests are actually diagnostic subtests. These discrepancies are due to the fact that the DAS-II had not been published when this book went to print. For an updated illustration of the CHC broad abilities/processes measured by the DAS-II click here. 
  •  At the top of p. 303 the description of Short-Term Memory is actually a description of Visual Processing. 
  • On page 302, are there any subtests that should be listed under Ideational Fluency?
    • Yes, WJ III RETRIEVAL FLUENCY (FI, NA)
  • I noticed that the percentile rank entry for the DAS-II Sequential and Quantitative Reasoning subtest has a bug in it. A SS of 96 is surely not a %ile rank of 0.03. This is such an obvious error that it won't cause problems, but you can improve this with version 2.
    • The percentile rank calculation function is not working properly in that cell. The converted standard score that is calculated from the T-score entered for Sequential-Quantitative Reasoning is calculated and reported correctly. However, the percentile rank associated with it is not calculated correctly and reports a range only from .01 to .03 which as you note is obviously not correct. This is a problem in the programming and one that will be addressed in the next version. For the time being, you can always enter the converted standard score generated by the program into one of the blank cells at the bottom of the page to have the program calculate the correct percentile rank. Doing this with a converted score of 96 yields the correct 39th percentile rank.
  • The XBA second edition book by Flanagan et al. (page 302) classifies the DAS-II Rapid Naming subtest as Glr (NA), rather as Gs as the DAS II protocol does, yet it does not appear as such on the CHC page under Glr. I understand that Flanagan et al. prefers to view it as Glr, but why then isn't it shown as such on the CHC page under Glr?
    • When the tables which are used for the drop down menus on both the CHC and DAS-II page, were being constructed, we were still debating the classification and location of the Rapid Naming subtest. Ultimately, it was placed under Glr and probably belongs there more so than under Gs. So in the tables in the book, that is where it appears. Unfortunately, this change was not later incorporated into the tables for the CHC page. In fact, you'll notice that Rapid Naming for the DAS-II does not even appear under Gs either. It should have been placed under Glr, consistent with the book, and the time it took to evaluate it unfortunately led to it not being added in time to the menu tables. Again, we are aware of this and it is another correction we will make in the next version.
  • On  page 186 - 2nd sentence in the bottom paragraph referring to the case of Benyala. The sentence says,

 

        "...the initial step in evaluating the data is to look at the highest Cell Average. This score would typically be located in the uppermost                 RIGHT corner". The sentence should  say "uppermost LEFT corner"

 

  • CHC Tab. The Gq section of the CHC tab should be called "Quantitative Knowledge Gq" not Quantitative Reasoning.
  • ·  In the Essentials of  KABC-II Atlantis is designated as a supplemental test in figure 2-9. It is listed as a core in the test manual. This is an error in the CB figure. Rebus Delayed and Atlantis got reversed somehow. Rebus and Atlantis are core and the delayed tests for both are supplemental.
  •  Because of the “3-D” nature of the graphs, it appears that the shading itself is 5 points off AND the normative range labels at the top     are also exactly 5 points off which makes it seem the conversions are off, but in fact they are not. For example, if the cluster score for the    Sequential/Gsm is 85, on the graphs, the bar appears to be graphed starting at 80 rather than 85. Similarly, the “normative range” label and indicator line also appears to be shifted by 5 points. In addition, the range of the bar that is calculated is also correct (i.e., SEM of +/- 5     points), but because of the 3-D effect of the bars, which makes them "float above the lines," it is easy to visually misinterpret which scores are represented.

 

 

   
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